Scoutpedia.nl:Scoutpedia Dag/SWN

	
        <Akela_NDE>What would Scoutpedia thinking of moving to Ressu, by the way ? :) You would enjoy ScoutMedia for shared images, a soon-to-come global account, interresting shared extensions … And "free" hosting by NettiPartiolaiset.ry
	<egel>	We are going to have a "scoutpedia dag" in October and than we will discuss the future of Scoutpedia.
	<Akela_NDE>	OK. That's a great idea to have that sort of meeting :) I already went to a couple of them and it's nice to see IRL the people you work with … especially when they're scouts, you find loooots of common points :D
	<egel>	The "problem" is that we like our freedom and we don't know if the advances of moving to Ressu is worth losing a part off that freedom.
	<egel>	We know more or less what we will gain by moving to Ressu but it is not clear what we will lose.
	<Akela_NDE>	Why should you lose something ? Scoutopedia moved to Ressu and we didn't lost anything.
	<egel>	We probably lose our own distinctive skin (it not wonderful, but at least better than the present scoutwiki skin)
	<egel>	We first want to examine the possible cooperation with the Dutch and Flemish Scouting organizations
	<egel>	Means moving to Ressu that we lose the "ownership" of the information on Scoutpedia?
	<Akela_NDE>	Sorry for the delay :)
	<Akela_NDE>	Your skin is not a problem, first point. You may be on Ressu and keep it, no problem.
	<Akela_NDE>	(Although it is probable that you won't need the advertising any more … but we may speak about that when you'll have moved)
	<Akela_NDE>	And for the ownership of information, no problem either : there is no "owner" ; it's public and under a free license.
	<egel>	The advertising is just for paying the hosting, it is not for "profit"
	<Akela_NDE>	The only thing is that, as you may have to become a full affiliated website, SW from its statutes should have a bureaucrat+sysop account, in order to be able to act if there is a court ruling about something illegal that would have been written on ScoutPedia
	<Akela_NDE>	But it will not be used if there is no such thing as court ruling or menace to try us for a text that would be diffamative or so
	<Akela_NDE>	SWN's purpose is to help to the display of information in ScoutWiki wikis → it gives the hosting and technical support, that's all. But it is not responsible nor does it "own" in any way the contents of the wikis. That's in the statutes.
	<Akela_NDE>	Actually the network's been designed to be helpful and useful for scouting wiki communities, so it tries to be really :p
	<egel>	But should it go wrong, are we still entitled to a copy of the information?
	<Akela_NDE>	I don't understand : should what go wrong ?
	<egel>	the cooperation, a court ruling, the bankruptcy of SW asso, whatever
	<egel>	plus, according to conservative talks about cooperation with the Dutch NSO, it seems one of their conditions would be that their work may not be lost.
	<Akela_NDE>	Cooperation: if you want to leave, you leave with your stuff. Court ruling: it would rule the same for ScoutPedia alone or in SWN, and you would be concerned by the trial. SW asso problem : you may leave with your stuff. Technical problem on the sever : there are regular saves, you may keep them if you want (to be seen with the technicians)
	<Akela_NDE>	We don't want our work to be able to get lost either.
	<Akela_NDE>	Do you have an association or so, for Scoutpedia ? Whom does it "belong" to, currently ? I thought it was just Buxx's